Ebay, the online auction giant, recently posted an apology for some items listed on its site that apparently contradicted its terms of use. Someone on the site was apparently trying to sell items related to the Holocaust. When eBay found out about the items, it removed them and offered a public apology to anyone who may have been offended.
I really don’t know why these items were offensive. I totally understand that the Holocaust is a significantly traumatic historical event about which millions of people are sensitive. But the items on eBay were not attempting to make light of Jewish suffering or encourage discrimination or hate against Jews. The items are relics of history. Included in the lot were yellow armbands used to designate Jews during the Holocaust and clothes of concentration camp victims, among other things. These items might be found in museums. Would a museum be profiting off of Jewish persecution if it charged an admission fee to see Holocaust items?
Some Jewish spokespeople argued that such items should not be sold to private parties because they should be “preserved” in museums. That argument doesn’t explain why they shouldn’t be on eBay. The very fact that they were on eBay means they are already owned privately. And listing them on eBay makes them available to museums for preservation. Removing them from eBay, however, does not mean they will be properly preserved.
This is just another example of our extraordinary over-sensitivity. eBay had to do what it did for financial reasons. I can see that. But the items weren’t necessarily in contradiction to its stated terms of use. It disallows items that “glorify hate or promote religious intolerance.” I don’t see that these items necessarily fit that description. One commenter on the situation wrote:
I, personally as a black person, if they had slave items listed on eBay I would be offended, so for Holocaust items I believe they should also be offended and not be sold.
I don’t understand that sentiment. (I barely understand that sentence, actually.) Where would you draw the line? Are you allowed to sell German WWII memorabilia? What about prints of old photographs or drawings depicting Holocaust-era Jews? There really isn’t any end to this. Anything can bring up painful “memories” if set in the right context. But properly dealing with the aftermath and consequences of traumatic events is not the same thing as being shielded from its existence. If “those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it,” it seems that historical and physical reminders of humanity’s past missteps are necessary to keep us walking the right direction in the future.
What would happen if someone posted shackles used on slaves on Ebay? You KNOW what would happen. Barack HUSSEIN Obama would be outraged and say that if he had a son that was a slave, he would have worn such shackles…
I think you might have the start of a series of one liner jokes, If Barack had a son…etc.
I believe that profiting from tragic suffering, death, and attempted genocide of others is wrong. In any context.
Some items NEED to be around so we don’t FORGET.
Items on ebay were NOT offensive and should have been sold so they could serve as historical reminders of how awful it was. Honestly, armband and prison garb isn’t offensive to me. Kids especially need to SEE this stuff.
How do you know a purchaser isn’t a private collector and ‘kids’ would see that ‘stuff’? Why not donate them to a Holocaust museum for preservation?
AttilaTheHen, I am astounded by your arrogance and gall to suggest that someone give away their private property! Amazing! Have you any hungry people in your neighborhood? Homeless? Why don’t you open up
your home and let people come and sleep on your couch or let the hungry raid your fridge? Don’t want to do that? Why not?
You have no idea how this person came into possession of these items, but the fact is, they belong to this person. How dare you suggest that someone give away their private property.
You are seriously beyond stupid which is even more astounding. A suggestion is nothing more than proposing an idea. It’s neither a demand or a judgment. I suppose you’re ignorant of the fact that people often times take tax deductions for donations are that in reality greater than the value of the donation itself? And to answer your questions, frankly no, there aren’t any homeless people in my neighborhood and I suspect if they’re hungry, they’ll cook something, open the fridge or go out and get something to eat.
I never suggested the owner came into possession of the items by dishonest, illicit or criminal means.
And by the way, how dare YOU suggest I’m not entitled to speak freely, make a suggestion, offer an opinion, or share an idea, you imbecile!
I think you won, she is really calling you names now!!!
BECAUSE IT IS HIS STUFF, THAT’S WHY!!!
Not until they buy it, Hoffhack. When one such as you, can’t read very well, doesn’t know or understand the context of a comment, it renders them incapable of successfully following a conversation. You would do well to restrain yourself – not that I care if you want to play the fool.
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Hoffhack, what you typed, does that have something to do with a kite?
Hoffhack, did you misspell ‘fly’?
YEP, just realized it! Did 2 f’s ……..oh well, she won’t git it anyhow!!! (LOL)
That’s what I figured happened. Need spell check on these forums.
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dit dit dah dit= F dit dah dit dit=L dah dit dah dah=Y
dit dah=A and you got the rest!!! 🙂 it’s the old USN CTR brancher in me! USN 12-69 to 12-73
Attila, Let’s go back to square one…. This article is about an individual trying to sell some private property on Ebay and Ebay jerking the auction. You have repeatedly suggested in the comments that the private property owner should, instead of selling his/her property, they should donate it to a library.
Why in the world would you write something silly like: “Not until they buy it” The individual already owns it and wants to sell it! Attila, instead of writing that Hoffhack has a reading comprehension problem, I would suggest you go back over the posts and read very slowly so that you can comprehend what’s being discussed.
asmith, yes, let’s go back to square one and I’ll try to help you. My ORIGINAL comment was:
AttilaTheHen
• a day ago
“I believe PERHAPS offering these items for public sale on a venue such as eBay could be construed as profiting from the misery of others. There are laws against criminals writing books, selling the rights to their story for profit, etc. and this MIGHT fall somewhere in that category… While the items have historical value and we should certainly remember, they MIGHT be more suitable for viewing in a Holocaust MUSEUM where they can preserved as well as presented appropriately.”
And felix1999 Dolores DeLuise
• a day ago wrote:
“Some items NEED to be around so we don’t FORGET.
Items on ebay were NOT offensive and should have been sold so they could serve as historical reminders of how awful it was. Honestly, armband and prison garb isn’t offensive to me. Kids especially need to SEE this stuff.”
And I responded:
AttilaTheHen felix1999
• a day ago
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How do you know a PURCHASER isn’t a private collector and ‘kids’ would see that ‘stuff’? Why not donate them to a Holocaust MUSEUM for preservation?”
I suppose for YOUR benefit and that of HOFFACK alone so you would have fully understood I was very SPECIFICALLY responding to someone ELSE’S comment that apparently you failed to read, and that it was not the seller to which I was referring, but rather a potential buyer, I SHOULD have said, “How do you know THE PURCHASER who would buy the items FROM THE SELLER on eBay” won’t be a private collector BECAUSE IF THAT’S YOUR CONCERN, IN CONSIDERATION OF THEIR HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE, CHILDREN MIGHT NOT EVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THEM?”
Then your brilliant buddy, wrote:
HOFFHACK AttilaTheHen
• 5 hours ago
“BECAUSE IT IS HIS STUFF, THAT’S WHY!!!”
And I responded:
“Not until they buy it…”
I would ask you to show me where I “repeatedly suggested
in the comments that the private property owner should, instead of selling
his/her property, they should donate it to a library.” or even used the word “library”, but this really IS my last response, so instead, asmith, I
STRONGLY suggest YOU go back over the posts in the order they were written and read very slowly WHAT I WROTE AND IN RESPONSE TO WHICH COMMENTS so that you can at least TRY to comprehend what was being discussed.
Oh, Hoffhack, You fool you…. LOL. Guess the simple, short and sweet fact that you pointed out about the stuff belonging to the guy on Ebay, (he hasn’t sold it yet, at least that we know of, being the control freaks scared Ebay into pulling the auction) was too much to bear for Attila. She’s calling you names now too!
FWIW, this is the way the mind works of all the control freaks, tyrannies, and dictatorships, they don’t really believe in private property and want to control every minute detail of other people’s lives. If they feel offended, then they believe all should be offended and forced to cow tow to their hurt or injured feelings. Ultimately, they’re arrogant in they think they’re mentally higher than others so therefore, it’s ok to control other people. After all, they’re doing it for all the little people’s own good. Personally, I think they feel so out of control in their own lives that this is why they try to control others. No different than our average school yard bully. They just Hate it when someone doesn’t bow to their dictates and thoughts, so then they revert to the name calling.
Oh, asmith1234 (probably as high as you can count) The comment “How do you know a purchaser isn’t a private collector and ‘kids’ would see that ‘stuff’?” was in response to Felix who said, “…Kids especially need to SEE this stuff.” I mean truly how dumb ARE you two liberal morons?
Huh! Liberal!!!! Attila, dear, Me thinks it’s your reading comprehension that needs to be improved. FWIW, not that you would care, I’m a Constitutionalist. BTW, it’s the liberals that are severe control freaks that don’t value private property. Since you seem to have a problem identifying what you are, may I suggest you visit the link of the World’s Smallest Political Quiz: http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php
Had me scared there for a moment!! just goes to show you have to read the whole post!! (:-) I just got back from an 8 day cruise. It seems that there was this obviously Liberal wacko couple who were waiting on the Customer service line. Well, with 35 cruises, I am a Platinum guest, and there is a special line for us! Well, they did not like that one bit!!! I just smiled, and got on with my business. Then it seems that they were vegetarians, and when they said that, they looked around like everyone was supposed to genuflect before them!! They wanted to know why there was not more Vegetarian meals on the menu (There were 4 every night) and it clearly said that if you have special likes or requirements, just see the Maitre’d and they would do their best to accommodate it they Could. But they wanted to make a scene ranting and raving about all this “UN-HEALTHY FOOD, STEAK AND LOBSTER, AND SALMON AND CHICKEN” You should have heard them. Now by this time, there were about 35 people on line, so I hollered out!! “All those who had the Surf and Turf tonight, raise your hands… EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE LINE RAISED THEIR HANDS, AND APPLAUDED!!! and they melted away into obscurity!!!! “PRICELESS!”
BOY DID I LOVE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PROUD MEMBER OF P.I.T.A. (People Eating Tasty Animals)
Love it!!! If you’d thought to record it, it would have made a hit on YouTube. Sheesh Hoffhack, I’m a bit jealous… 35 cruises! Wow, it sounds like fun and a lot warmer than where I’m at now in the northern climate where winter is sweeping in upon me.
35 cruise’s 35 people in line, and 35 lies you’ve told this week 35 is your lucky number I guess.
IT’S EBAY’S SITE THAT”S WHY HE CAN’T SELL IT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you get extra points for exclamation marks? You seem to use them so out of context I figure there’s a contest or something going on
There you go again, Attila, you’re coveting control over that which does NOT belong to you. Hmmm, how many times have you ‘suggested’ that the owner of this property should just give it away in this comment section? Please, go take your ‘dim view’ of selling private property, make a button, “I take a dim view of people selling their private property that I find offensive” and see who all cares about your dim view.
Perhaps you can find some fellow ‘dim viewers’ that would care and you could all lament together over your inability to control people around you.
Pretty soon we will have Obamacare and all the things you just mentioned will be happening in real time, especially the part about “profits”.
Dolores, This private property has a financial worth because it is historical. Are you trying to say it’s wrong to sell any private property, of historical value, that happens to be from a negative piece of history? Isn’t that stealing from the private property owner? Stealing is clearly wrong. Selling private property, that just so happens to have a historical value to a time period that was horrifying, is not wrong.
You are perfectly within your right should you have some private property that bothered your conscience to sell to not sell it. However, to dictate or even suggest that the owner is somehow doing something wrong by selling their own property, is wrong. It’s coveting control over that which does not belong to you. Coveting and stealing are both wrong.
Yes, relicts of the Holocaust and slavery can be upsetting to people who personally identify with those traumatic events, but every restriction is a diminishment of liberty and should not be encouraged in America (“land of the free”).
What’s worse, restrictions like that in the eBay case are open-ended, allowing any feeling of offense by anyone to curtail another person’s liberty. If Muslims regard symbols of Christianity, such as a crucifix, to be offensive, should they be allowed to prevent the public sales of such symbols?
And it’s hypocritical. I’m personally offended by pictures of Obama, but I doubt that the liberals who are pushing the eBay restrictions would allow me the same prerogative
What you’re saying is inaccurate. The restrictions are quite plain, and if an item is questionable you can ask for clarification from Ebay’s staff. We’ earn just over half of our business on Ebay and have sold there for over a decade so you’re obviously not a seller in this marketplace or you’d know you’re talking out your backside.
No they are not! I sell on e-bay every day! What recourse do you have if they ban something! None! History is History! Stalin was just as bad or worse than Hitler was, yet his stuff is traded freely. How come? It couldn’t be that e-bay is run buy a bunch of lefty “Libtards!!” Could it???
Hoffhack, “Stalin was just as bad or worse than Hitler ” That caused me to think… that really is a toss up as to which one of these evil men were the worst. FWIW, I don’t know if Ebay is run by “Libtards” but my guess is just like so many other businesses, they want to sit on the fence, lest the pc bullies attack and cause them trouble.
NotYourUsualPolitics, I’m an Ebayer.. Is there anything that you could copy and paste here that would show the selling restriction that this seller violated? Even a link would work if it wasn’t some huge section to dig in. Thanks… I truly would be interested in reading it.
Here’s a link to all the items, but I’ll tell you in general you can’t sell Nazi items (the say skinheads would buy them for racists purposes but I’ve found ways around that with photoshop and hint wording for example) but it’s a fairly extensive list so you just need to read the list and pick out categories where the prohibited items might fall into. After years of this I’ve also cultivated a list of consumer with particular interests that’s let’s me by pass Ebay but it’s tricky stuff and remember it’s not just ebay but you may get away with some items and not others simply because Ebay does rely on snitches (read that as competitors) who will try to get you listing booted so they can sell there’s. The best way around it is setting a price and running a Buy It Now but remember to many hits in a certain time period can get you suspended and booted completely so I’m fairly careful. I made a ton of mistakes in my first year and got booted but then created an LLC and started again to get around the ban.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/items-ov.html#prohibited
I appreciate the time you took to post the link. It’s only been a handful of times over the years I’ve sold anything on ebay, (99 percent buyer), but it’s good to know and understand the policies. I went to the link and then scrolled down to the Offensive Material Policy. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/offensive.html I’ve got to say that it’s pretty subjective. These historical artifacts are not something that glorify or promote nazis. They’re just part of history. Down at the bottom of this page they specifically have a Nazi and Nazi-related link but the link just links back to the same page. (it’s like they may have had plans to make a specific page for Nazis, but they haven’t, yet.) Honestly, as a seller, I wouldn’t look at these historical pieces as promoting nazis. But then they’ve written this policy so open that a Mac truck could drive through it.
Oh I understand and I have lot of complaints but at the end of the day it’s their site, they’re hired a CEO and they’re a publicly traded company and can do as the dang well please. Since so much of our income is dependent on them I have to put up with a lot. They bend over the kiss a buyers behind even when they’re wrong, sellers cannot leave negatives for buyers anymore, the fee’s have climbed…..Oh I have complaints but in the last 10 years we’ve grossed $537.533.00 on their site and when we couple that with our brick *& mortar and what our private site does ebay’s the biggest chuck of the cash so they’re the best game in town. We also use craigslist, etsy, and a couple of others but the lions share comes in from Ebay so I stay and put up with it. Since they went public and use corporate CEO’s with MBA’s they’ve lost ground but picked some of it up. Just because you have an MBA doesn’t mean you understand how Ebay started as a trading community, these CEO’s have done their damnedest to take the community aspect out and the current CEO call’s sellers like me “Noise” since their are so many that drop ship Chinese garbage and I sell predominately American made antiques and collectibles and some war memorabilia and I just photshop the Nazi symbol off medals and stuff because the collectors know what it should look like and I use phrasing like German WW2 medal with appropriate markings. You don’t see the Nazi logo and I don’t use he word Nazi so I get away with most of it.
Good luck
Knowing how to word the listing and the appropriate category it should go in would seem to be the key to keeping the listing alive. Then pray some pc control freak doesn’t spot the listing and do their whine and complain. My daughter does a lot of trading/selling/buying off of craigslist in our local area. Mostly live farm animals. She’s complained to me that the control freaks are alive and well on craigslist and will get a listing banned sometimes in a matter of hours. (it’s like they don’t have a life so they just monitor craigslist looking for a listing that they can complain about and make trouble for the person listing) One has to be creative so that these control freak animal rights nutz don’t spot the listing. It’s really bad if you’re trying to find a home for a domestic pet. (bird, dog, cat)
I’m with Hoffhack that I’m offended by those that are trying to control others and are playing that THEY’RE offended. By bowing to the control freaks, people don’t realize that it’s the path to tyranny. First it’s vocal control, then it’s by paper, (unconstitutional laws) then it’s by iron. (iron fist)
All I can tell you is you have a choice. Don’t like Ebay, Etsy, Craigslist etc etc etc? Start your own site and make your rules for that site. These sites have all made choices they feel are best for their business and business model and you don’t HAVE to use them. No a soul on earth is forcing me to list on Ebay, Etsy, Craigslist, or any other I may choose to take as an approach to make money. It’s THEIR website.
Knowing how to word the listing and the appropriate category it should go in would seem to be the key to keeping the listing alive. Then pray some pc control freak doesn’t spot the listing and do their whine and complain. My daughter does a lot of trading/selling/buying off of craigslist in our local area. Mostly live farm animals. She’s complained to me that the control freaks are alive and well on craigslist and will get a listing banned sometimes in a matter of hours. One has to be creative so that these control freak animal rights nutz don’t spot the listing. It’s really bad if you’re trying to find a home for a domestic pet. (bird, dog, cat)
I’m with Hoffhack that I’m offended by those that are trying to control others and are playing that THEY’RE offended. By bowing to the control freaks, people don’t realize that it’s the path to tyranny. First it’s vocal control, then it’s by paper, (unconstitutional laws) then it’s by iron. (iron fist)
I totally concur with what you have said. My former wife had a Jewish Hungarian second cousin who was at Auschwitz. because he could speak German he was forced to act as their translator. This fact is what saved his life. I don’t think anyone would accuse him of collaborating with the enemy, simply because he did their bidding.
I can’t imagine calling a person an anti-Semite simply because they collect Holocaust items. I think such items serve as a constant reminder of what must never happen again.
Robert Hayes Halfpenny
I believe perhaps offering these items for public sale on a venue such as eBay could be construed as profiting from the misery of others. There are laws against criminals writing books, selling the rights to their story for profit, etc. and this might fall somewhere in that category… While the items have historical value and we should certainly remember, they might be more suitable for viewing in a Holocaust museum where they can preserved as well as presented appropriately.
“There are laws against criminals writing books, selling the rights to their story for profit, etc. and this might fall somewhere in that category…”
What twisted logic. Are you equating the owner of these items as being a criminal?
AttilatheHen, You think like a true tyrannical control freak. Should you ever come into possession of items with a historical value, you’d be perfectly within your rights to donate them to a museum. That would be YOUR choice to make. What in the world has given you the idea that you should control what others do with their private property?
I’m behaving in a tyrannical fashion by offering an opinion of what some might think or construe by the sale for profit of these items while never mentioning or even implying the owner doesn’t have every “right” to do whatever they choose with them?
asmith1244, I suggest you look to yourself – what in the world has given you the idea that you have any reading comprehension skills? My comparison was not between criminals and the owner of the items, but rather the dim view some might take or construe, which means interpret in such a way that it’s viewed as profiting from the suffering of others.
If these things belonged to me I wouldn’t give a rat’s patooty what ‘dim view’ you took on the matter.
asmith, you have no argument, so came back with a completely irrelevant, inane comment. I never said I take a dim view on anything, so you’re just arguing for argument’s sake. I don’t have the interest, much less the time to indulge your need to have the last word no matter how ridiculous it is. Nitwits simply aren’t worth it, so carry on without me.
Thank goodness! Must be “ALPO” time!
Don’t know about you, but I am glad I don’t have to take that kisser for a walk every day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOF!
ebay is a perfect example of what is wrong with the world today.
A business running itself as it sees fit? Why don’t you complain about Wlamart costing taxpayers an average of $900.00 per year since the pay so poorly many of those employed qualify for their states TANF and Mdicaid programs? Clueless people, you’ll defend one business because it stand it’s ground on how it wants to run it’s company but not the right of another. What logic that is.
My comments are as I bloody well see fit and point on I might add. Opinions of bias reveals your lame reasoning.
My you’re just a steaming pile of humanity and logic aren’t you…..well you’re a steaming pile of something anyway
typical!! you can’t win with facts, so you resort to name calling!!! “LIBTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
I stated ‘Facts” and the nice thing about facts is they’re irrefutable, you’re welcome to your own opinion just not your own facts.
Libtard? Really you haven’t thought up a new 3rd grade insult in forever. Guess it would take a brain for that to occur and you’re showing just how little yours functions.
Thanks for the laugh.
Might as well go argue with a tree stump!! You’ll probably get more intelligent answer too!!!!
Hoffhack, you notice I didn’t waste any more time on the jerk. Screw the worthless POS.
Now the “The Libtard” comes out!!! “LET’S MAKE THE MINIMUM WAGE 50 DOLLARS AN HOUR!!! I can’t support my family working at Macdonalds……………ho boy!!!!
E-Bay has some relatively fuzzy thought processes. I have a bunch of material that I am selling that references Cuba … in the early 1900’s and … since there is an embargo on recent Cuban materials … everything that mentions the name “Cuba” has been removed.
I keep wondering if they pull stuff related to Cuba Gooding off too. MAybe they just terminated his contract? Assuming he has one.
You’re listing it wrong is all I can say, you’ve either chosen wrong category or some other infraction because I can show you over 46,000 items currently on Ebay right now that are cuban related in one way or another. You either misunderstood your policy violation or didn’t appeal the decision
Get a GRIP people, it is just STUFF!!!
Silas, look into the issue more deeply. The heart of the matter is about liberty. The PC bullies have scared a number of enterprises and businesses into silence or curtailing their business in some way for fear of repercussions from the pc bullies. No different than one giving up their lunch money to the school yard bully because they don’t want to get into trouble for fighting.
PC be damned. Niggers are niggers, spics are spics wetbacks are wetbacks, honkies are honkies. Obama is a cocksucking socialist, Pelosi is an asshole, dried up cunt, Reid is a asshat moron. Items form the Holocaust are just items to be sold on ebay. Does it rally matter what anyone thinks or sells? Racists will be racists, illegals will remain illegal, businessmen will remain businessmen and it rally does not matter.
Shed the thin skin, forget PC and get back to LIVING!!!
Political Correctness leads to all sorts of nonsense……and very little real sense.
The problem is that it’s gone beyond nonsense when these pc bullies are in positions to make unconstitutional laws that affect us all. At this point in time a law doesn’t even need to be written when you’ve got businesses that just out of fear from offending, curtail their business.
This islamic communist regime made them take it down because it goes against “THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED” propaganda.
No surprise E,bay would do this. . . owned by tax dodging liberals.
Ebay is a publicly traded company with stockholders so you’re logic is falling a little short unless you have proof that every stock holder is liberal and that you don’t now do you?
NotYour UsualPolitics said “Ebay is a publicly traded company with stockholders so you’re logic is falling a little short unless you have proof that every stock holder is liberal and that you don’t now do you?”
You should run for office, you have the skill set needed,
denial+ignorance+anger aimed at specific political demographics .
Anyhow, like all other posts you’ve “deposited” on the page, you are wrong. Still not clear why you took issue with my post.
Hey, here is an idea, print out the attached graphic and pin it to your shirt. Nice job girl.
I don’t know how you did that!!! “BUT I LOVE IT!!!!”
Thanks HoffHack. Was a graphic designer in a former life, using the basics of same to translate messages into pictures so id-jits like “NotYour UsualPolitics” can (maybe) understand.
HoffHack – – – Have a great week and hold your Conservative Flag high Brother!
See how easy being stupid as you are can be?
Child’s play but then again that’s what you are, a child.
You don’t now how to use photo editing software? Sell your computer.
Thanks for blowing that up. You do need to give him credit… most liberals would not admit that their ideology is the same as that of the nazis, but it is. They probably aren’t doing this intentionally because just like the bulk of the population, they’re historically politically ignorant.
So you deny Ebay is a publicly held company whose stock is traded? Or did you offer some proof somewhere that it’s a bastion of liberalism, because if you did I missed it.
Now as for you’re cute little avatar, reminds me of your brain, cute and little.
You OK champ? not sure what you are referring to, perhaps your perpetual state of confusion is again effecting your judgement. Thanks Bob.
Is someone in this comment section holding the Nazis in high esteem? I must have missed the post.
I didn’t read far enough.
The restrictions are a private parties right to place on their domain. END OF STORY, Ebay owns the site Ebay sets the rules. You’d argue it for any other business so I don’t understand the objections to a company deciding what’s best for it’s business.
E-bay is run by a bunch of Lefty “LIBTARDS!!” END OF STORY!!
Meg Whitman ran Ebay, I swore she was a Republican as is her Successor, You’re just a really dumb phck aren;t ya? She worked for Romney genius, and once held hopes for office in California and got her large back side smacked
E-bay is exercising censorship, plain and simple. You can call me a liar, and not like the fact that I cruise often. Call me names, try to convince everyone that you are superior, and know better, not like the way I type, I really could give a flip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Romney was not a true Republican, if he were, he would have won. E-bay operates in the public domain. And while I realize that there are some countries that forbid certain things from being put on, there is nothing illegal about any of these items being sold here in the U.S. and I am not only talking about Nazi or Holocaust items, and their policies are all over the map, subject to the whims of whomever happens to be on duty, and is worst on the weekends, when they probably have a bunch of liberal kids from “Berkley” on duty! I sell U. S. and British militaria, and I have had many instances where just mentioning the word Nazi’s (these were used against the Nazi’s during WWII) got my item banned!!!! And according to you, it is OK, or I should have to spend 2 hours trying to convince a product of Left Wing California Education that they are wrong……..I have better things to do!!
And that picture you posted was totally “tasteless” as are most of your rants. Your Avatar clearly shows you think you are a Moderate!! Totally gutless!
Oh, before you sit down and try to come up with some other insult, I hope you enjoy yourself on Obama care!!!!
I see when it’s the guy’s stuff he an do what he pleases but when a company makes decisions that it believes are in it’s best interest it’s censorship. You’re already failing in logic but ok.
Yes I do believe you’re a liar I went and checked your previous comments and consistency in insults is the only consistency you seems to have.
Their policies are not all over the map, they’re actually pretty straight forward and you’re stupid if you know the word Nazi is going to get your listing pulled and still use it.
Ebay employee’s do not have individual power to do a damn thing, they have an employee manual and training and have to adhere to Ebay’s policies PERIOD.
My picture was tasteless? Perhaps but it took less time and actually involved more than boosting an avatar and adding some stupid caption. You’d know that if you really knew about computers and as a supposed Ebay seller if you don’t know how to manipulate photo software you’re not a good one.
Obamacare doesn’t bother me in the least although I think the single payer plan was a smarter way to go and all the Affordable Care Act really amounts to is a duplicate of what republican’s proposed in the 90’s and if you knew politics you’d know that
As far as your avatar I could give a rat’s A$$ less about it. You’re a moron with sludge between your ears where a thinking man’s brain should be.
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You’re also really stuck on that number I can see…..buh bye now brainless.
You are reduced to name calling, I win!
Gee who started the name calling to begin with? Huh, well that would be you. So by you’re delusional standard of who won and lost reality would have already made you the loser that you are. Just follow the thread to you initial response and my point has been shown to be correct. LOSER. I mean seriously, if that’s where you set the bar you lost long ago. How freaking ignorant must you be to not realize that? What a worthless life you must live. If you think for even a moment you’ve somehow bested me you need some serious mental health treatment. I really hope you seek professional help before you become another crazed mall or school shooter because that’s where you’re headed with this childish I WIN stupid attitude.
Good luck hope you get the help you need.
If not make sure than rather attack innocent people you just aim the barrel in your mouth and make sure you sever the brain stem when you pull the trigger so it ends quickly you effin loser piece of Sh!t.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA All one need do is read the posts to see which of us needs help!!! The little man in the white coat needs to pay you a visit, and I don’t mean the “Good Humor Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HA HA HA HA HA!!!
You know you really should look into some mental health treatment. You’re a very unhinged and deluded person seriously in need of help.
Here’s hoping to your recovery and return to reality.
The last person to post on this thread was 5 days ago, yet even 6 days later you are still obsessed with proving (or trying to prove) you are some how superior. You had better sign up for Obamacare soon and get the help you need, after almost 7 days? You have a serious problem! Oh! You will not get the last word! So don’t bother trying!
Wait, according to Ahmadinejad and quite a lot of other muslim idiots the Holocaust never happened, so how do they sell stuff from something that never took place..Now we, with a brain of our own (non kool-aid drinking folks) all know different and that was one of the worst, if not the worst thing that happened in the history of the earth.. so, trying to make a buck off of this is atrocious….
I think the real issue is that some people want to sweep it under the rug and pretend (or worse prompt the idea that) it didn’t happen.
As a convert to Judaism, I firmly believe that that should never happen.
When I say “NEVER AGAIN” I MEAN it.
People NEED to be reminded, even if it makes them uncomfortable, otherwise it’s too easy for the deniers to diminish its significance.
Obama’s DHS Gestapo and other alphabet agencies have recently purchased over 1.8 BILLION rounds of hollow point ammo – enough to shoot every man, woman, and child in the country 5 times or more – enough for over 20 years of warfare here in the homeland at the intensity of the Iraq/Afghanistan conflict – ammo that’s illegal for military use under international law, and have just ordered more and an additional 7,000 FULLY AUTOMATIC “personal defense” weapons. They have also recently purchased almost 3,000 armored fighting vehicles for use on the streets of America, in addition to the many already obtained from DoD. How does anyone with the capability of rational thought escape the conclusion that our government is preparing for a war on its own citizens?
Feinstein, Schumer, Obama, Holder, Bloomberg, Cuomo, Durban, and their whole gang are tyrant wannabes. To them, anyone who does, or might, oppose their control over every aspect of our lives, is “a criminal” because they said so.
To quote a few of their heroes, with explanatory comments in ( ):
“Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.” – Mao
(They revere Mao and the way he ruthlessly grabbed power in China. The fact that he murdered about 100 million Chinese to do it is, to them, a “feature,” not a “bug.”)
“If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves. … The only real power comes out of a long rifle. … Everyone imposes his own system as far as his army can reach. … We don’t let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns? … The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic.” — Joseph Stalin
“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed the subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty.” — Adolf Hitler
(These psychopathic sociopaths in our government – and THEY ARE PRECISELY THAT, never make the mistake of doubting it – believe that they are anointed to be our rulers and that we are the equivalent of Hitler’s “subject races.” And we know what they did to “them.”)
Don’t tell me, “It can’t happen here in America.” To borrow a quote from Mike Vanderboegh,
“Anyone who tells you that ‘It Can’t Happen Here’ is whistling past the graveyard of history. There is no ‘house rule’ that bars tyranny coming to America. History is replete with republics whose people grew complacent and descended into imperial butchery and chaos.”
Hitler disarmed the Jews and others, then murdered millions
Stalin disarmed the Russians, them murdered millions
Mao disarmed the Chinese peasants, then murdered nearly 100 million.
The Turks disarmed the Armenians, then murdered 1.5-2 million.
Pol Pot disarmed the Cambodians and murdered millions.
Rwanda disarmed its ethnic groups, then murdered millions.
The list goes on … about 262 MILLION people were murdered BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENTS in the 20th century – AFTER they allowed those governments to disarm them. See: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
They ALL thought “It can’t happen here” – until they were disarmed and it started, then it was too late. Don’t make the same mistake. Don’t EVER let your government disarm you.
The Founders knew that government, if not constrained at every step, will continue to accumulate power and control until it becomes tyranny. That’s why they feared standing armies and insisted that the “right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
“A tyrannical rule cannot in any reasonable construction be accounted lawful, and therefore the disturbance of such a government cannot be esteemed seditious, much less traitorous.” – Thomas Aquinas
When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance becomes Duty – Thomas Jefferson
Take the pledge:
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2012/12/19/my-personal-pledge-of-resistance-against-any-attemp-to-disarm-us-by-means-of-an-assault-weapons-ban/
E-bay is so politically correct they make me sick! I wish there were an alternative to them and I’d drop them like a hot potato! I sell militaria, mostly knives and bayonets. All perfectly legal. But if I take a bayonet for an M-1 Garand rifle, that is OK! But take the identical bayonet, but it fits the M-14 rifle (which we cannot legally own) or an M1A1 semi auto rifle, which we can, and because some chuckle headed numb skull(s) at e-bay says it is an accessory for an “ASSAULT RIFLE” (OH MY!!!) they threatened me with suspension, and pulled the listing!!! Now someone has to explain to me how someone could be offended by that M-6 bayonet??? Or an M-7 bayonet??? (fits the M-16 which many Vietnam Vets carried) You would have to go on there looking for it, it is just not going to “POP UP!!” Same thing with Nazi stuff!!! I don’t like, or collect it, but it is a part of History. The dang Roman’s had probably the most savage Military in History, yet there is no ban on their stuff!! The British Empire had their “MOMENTS TOO!!!” ( just look how many prisoners died on their prison ships in NY Harbor) in India, or Australia or an one of 100 Colonies, but no ban there!! And to be blunt, so much has come out about “STALIN!!” that in some ways, he was far worse than the Nazi’s, but I don’t see anything banned from the USSR!!!
OFFENDED PEOPLE ARE REALLY STARTING TO “””OFFEND ME!!!”
Odds are it’s your competitor’s and not Ebay. Happens almost always that a competitor will turn your listing in and say it’s a prohibited item and ebay pulls it. Then you have to call freaking customer service and explain why it’s not and even then you may have to to rewrite the title to make it work or wait until the idiot that turned me in finds somebody else to go after. Trust e it’s not an ebay employee randomly pulling your listings, some body else is turning your listing into them.. They admit they count on members to “Self Police” which means any a-hole with a grudge against you can screw your sales up
Items like NAZI items are reminders of Hitlers Socialist Party and how rotten socialism is. NAZI is abbreviation for Hitler’s “German Socialist Party” he took charge of in 1933. Remind all that socialist’s are evil.
By “Holocaust” is the writer referring to the systematic murder of tens of millions of Eastern Europeans by Bolshevik Jews in the 1920’s and ’30’s?