Is Rick Perry Right About Homosexuals?

Rick Perry recently came under fire for some comments he made likening homosexuality to alcoholism:

Whether or not you feel compelled to follow a particular lifestyle or not, you have the ability to decide not to do that. I may have the genetic coding that I’m inclined to be an alcoholic, but I have the desire not to do that, and I look at the homosexual issue the same way.

Even if homosexual behavior were linked to a genetic predisposition, according to Perry, it can and should be resisted. Fanboys of the homosexual agenda take offense anytime anyone even hints that perhaps homosexuality is a behavior rather than an identity.  As far as they are concerned, what Rick Perry said was that homosexuality is a behavioral disorder.

But aside from the obvious pain of having your self-ascribed identity relegated to a lifestyle decision—and a bad one at that—I fail to see why anyone would reject the core idea of what Rick Perry said here.

You really can’t legally define homosexuality as anything other than a behavior. Whether that behavior is rooted in genetics or choice or some combination of both, referring to homosexuality as a behavior or a lifestyle is the most humane and rational way to designate it.

Just think about it. If a so-called homosexual never engages in any homosexual acts, but merely has homosexual desires, should that person be legally or publicly designated a homosexual? No. Any more than a person who lusts after another man’s wife but never acts on those desires should be legally and publicly designated as an adulterer. Without the behavior, the designation is legally meaningless—even misleading.

This is not to negate the fact that a person is self-defined by that which predominates his thought life. But that’s not really an issue of public or civil concern, is it?

I think what is most upsetting to the homosexual community is not so much that Rick Perry deems their self-ascribed identity to be a behavioral choice rather than an ontological identity. I think what most upsets them is that he wants them, whether or not they have identity-shaping homosexual desires, to resist their desires. By calling for homosexuals to abstain from public acts of homosexuality, he is calling homosexual behavior bad. And homosexuals, for obvious reasons, don’t like that, because they believe that they themselves are defined by that behavior. Rick Perry, though he may not have intended to, didn’t just insult their lifestyle decision. As far as they are concerned, Rick Perry insulted them.

According to homosexuals, they are what they do. No one seems to want to talk about how destructive this perspective is. It leaves the homosexual enslaved to a behavioral identity. Why else would homosexuals need to set themselves apart with lisps and flamboyant clothing? Because, aside from their behavior and outward appearance, they have no distinct sense of identity. If they stopped doing “homosexual” things, they would lose any sense of who they are. That’s sad.

But the solution to this is not to tell the homosexual, “You are gay for sure. Nothing can change that. But you need to stop acting gay.” Speaking of likening homosexuality to alcoholism, think about how ineffective most addiction programs are. Why? Because most of these programs begin with this idea: “You are an addict. You are powerless to stop your addiction. No matter how long you go without taking a drink or a hit, you will always be an addict. All you can hope for is to manage your behavior.” Hogwash. And you wonder why relapse is the overwhelming norm for addicts? They are apparently pre-determined to relapse by their immutably broken natures.

If that’s the best we can offer homosexuals and addicts, no wonder they hate what we have to say about their condition. Because what we are saying is, “You are at root a broken person (unlike me). The best you can hope for is to hide your brokenness in polite society.” Again, that is rubbish. We are telling the homosexual, “Yes. I agree with you that at your core, you are defined by homosexuality, and there’s nothing you can do to change that. But I want you to change your behavior, and to do that, you must actually hate the very behavior that defines you as a person. In essence, you must hate the person you are, so you can act like someone you are not. You must hate the homosexuality in you that you can never hope to change, so that you can regulate your behavior for the normal, healthy people around you.” So you can understand why homosexuals would resent that. They are right to resent it. That attitude is self-righteous, blind, and unhelpful. It breeds resentment and hatred, and little else.

So while I agree with Rick Perry that homosexuality must be legally defined as behavior, I disagree that homosexuals, or addicts for that matter, are at root any more broken than heterosexuals or teetotalers. And I do not agree that resisting homosexual urges is the key to ending the socially and personally destructive behavior of homosexuality. The key is for so-called homosexuals to stop identifying as homosexuals.

I have all sorts of desires. Many of them are rotten. But I won’t allow my desires to define who I am. I am something more than the animalistic sum of my behaviors. We are all broken, and we all desire self-destructive things. Just because some of our self-destructive desires and vices are more or less socially acceptable, that doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme. Our behavior doesn’t need to be conditioned. No. Our hearts and wills need to be transformed. And that is possible for all of us.

We have to be able to offer hope to homosexuals, addicts, and anyone else who has become what he does. It is destructive to tell homosexuals they have no choice, but this choice should not be limited to what they do. Such a requirement to act like something they’re not is cruel and hypocritical. The fact is that no one is biologically, circumstantially, or socially predestined for homosexuality no matter what they might choose otherwise. We all make choices about what we do. That’s obvious. What’s less obvious is that we all have a choice about who we are as well.

79 responses

  1. Homosexuality is a perversion of the worst type. Since homosexuals can’t procreate, they indoctrinate innocent children. It don’t get more evil than that.

    • The toxic fairy tale of religion is dying, and it can’t come too soon. Someday sick,demented, hateful pukebags like you will only exist in history books

      • Religion is spawned by Satan. Christianity is an eternal personal relationship with the Lord God Jesus Christ and every Christian that dies he or she goes immediately to be with the Lord(2Cor. 5:8). PRAISE His holy name.

        • Religion: “a belief in God” PERIOD
          Simply… a belief in God.

          And you say that is “spawned by Satan”…
          Do you ever think before you spew your venom???

          • Religion says…DO. Christianity says…DONE by the grace of God. Religion is mans attempt to reach God on his or her own MERITS.
            Christianity is the OPPOSITE of religion. Christianity is simply and eternal personal

            relationship with the living God, Jesus Christ by calling upon His name(Acts 2:21, 16:31;

            Romans 10:9,10,13), asking and receiving Him into your heart by faith(John 1:12).

            John 8:3. Religion will always INTERRUPT God. It will interrupt what He is doing, and it

            will interrupt His plans and the spreading of the gospel in the world’s harvest fields

            because it is fostered by Satan and has NO PART with the Lord.

            The Pharisees which started out right(under Ezra), had degenerated into an elitist clique

            which, to all outward appearance, was very reverant and holy but inwardly was corrupt,

            venal, and unspiritual. Religion, like the law, is the OPPOSITE of faith. Religion is filled

            with fervency, an outward piousness or set of externals which Jesus compared to an above

            ground tomb, saying it is “full of dead men’s bones, and full of uncleanness”(Matt. 23:27).

            And religion cares little for people. It’s interest is wrapped up in buildings, property, titles,

            money, position, and tradition forbidden by God(Matt. 15:3; Mark 7:9,13), legalism, and

            denominational expansion. People are but a necessary evil in religion’s execution of its own

            designs and purposes.

            Jesus said, “I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God

            before you”(Matt. 21:31). What a statement! And yet organized religion basically finds itself

            in this exact same position today. As a whole, organized religion sits in the same place as

            Simon the Pharisee. Religious SIN is the worse sin of all(behind the sin of unbelief, John

            3:18, 36), simply because it cannot see its sin AS sin; therefore, it cannot be forgiven.

            Religion has PRIDE in its foundation. PRIDE is always robed in self-deception and as a

            result, religious adherents have no consciousness of their sin. This is why it is so hard

            to reach the pious, self-righteous individuals. They cannot recognize their need for the

            Redeemer and ONLY Him. In fact, they tend to lift up their own self-righteousness, and

            by doing so, they insult the Lord of Glory. The Bible is harsh on self-righteousness as can

            be seen in Isaiah 64:6. Many people are following religions that will lead to DISAPPOINT-

            MENT. Because man made filthy religions are not totally based on the finished work and

            shed royal blood of Christ, they are FALSE and will NOT lead to heaven. Only Jesus, the

            eternal Son of God, can take us to the waters of life.

            The world has its religions, its programs, its plans, its values, but Christ witnessed that

            it is all EVIL(John 7:7).

            We must not be fooled by those who teach another way to God(Galatians 1:8). We must

            help others to see that trusting the Lord Jesus Christ as Savior is mans’ ONLY hope. Religion

            may INFORM and REFORM but only Christ can TRANSFORM(2Cor. 5:17).

          • You are simply playing a game with words.
            You mock the word “religion” and make it sound evil.
            It is not evil. It simply means “a belief in God”.

            Apparently, you have memorized much of Sacred Scripture.
            How wonderful to know God’s Word!
            I hope you will use those words the way God meant them to be used… to understand the beauty of our Christian faith.

          • At least you’re civil and I don’t consider you an enemy. I HATE religion. It’s the opposite of faith. Religion is the most DECEPTIVE weapon Satan has and its been very successful.

          • I’m glad you don’t consider me an enemy – I’m not one!
            I wish you blessings in your search for the Truth.
            Godspeed…

          • I’ve studied Catholic doctrine since the 80s’. Check EVERYTHING you’re being told. EVERYTHING like the Christians at Beria(Acts 17:11).
            Truth is a PERSON, Jesus Christ(John 14:6) just like love is a person(1John 4;8). When you receive Jesus Christ by FAITH ALONE(Romans 4:5, 5:1; Ephesians 2:8,9), you receive TRUTH. Peace.

      • Ah yes a little antichrist that works for the devil. See here is the deal, all non-believers are antichrists. The Christians are sitting around waiting for one guy to step up. That isn’t going to happen. But the devil has a whole army of antichrists like you.

  2. And BTW, I once again urge LR contributors to go to Huff Post and made a few comments on homos at that fag run site. I have been banned for life by Huffy Puffy Post because of my views on homos – join the exclusive ‘banned for life by Huff’ club; wear that distinction with pride and honor.

    • I don’t care if it’s left or right… being banned from posting your opinion is censorship and disgusts me, whoever is banned…
      I hated when they took away downvotes (another form of censorship).

    • Hb at an honor. Have y considered running for public office. Awesome distinction. I didn’t know Arianna was gay. Amazing.

    • Liberal sites always censor conservatives, or the liberals there do. Liberals can’t handle an opposing view.

  3. “… any more broken than heterosexuals …” – Minkoff are you serious, a closet homo, or just ignorant. Research the types of medical issues that come with this perversion – be warned, some sites are quite graphic in describing the consequences of doing unnatural things with human body parts.

        • Org ring gay…which is, of course, not a sin. Get over it. Go crawl under a convenient rock and party on….missionary style only. No sodomy allowed.

      • No can fix stupid, it is here to stay…But being forced to bow to their demands is another story and l am against that. l am for equal freedom and righteous laws for everyone.. I do not think special group of people needs specials treatments and live by a different set of standard… Hate it when Christians are being sued and FORCED (slavery ) to have to bid to their demands…

  4. Question: Under the watch of Barak Obama Iraq is collapsing. The Middle East is quaking in fear as radical Islamists have established a new homeland for Al Qaeda. Russia is massing troups on the Ukrainian border….. Chinese ships are driving American ships out of the South China Sea and taking our nation economic hostage. How do these events fit into prophecy?

    The answer to this question and many others can be found on my
    Bible Prophecy website: itshallcometopass.org

  5. Mr. Minkoff, Before you and your comrades write another article about gays, meet with Log Cabin Republicans beforehand.

  6. I. Understand Gov Opps Perry has new glasses that help him remember what to say about not button issues like gays. He’s gonna make a great Presdente. maybe A Perry/Palin ticket or would Sarah consider it below her.

  7. My personal opinion is 1) how they were raised, and 2) when I first moved to CA in 1960 homes were on the streets between my apartment and jobs stopping and soliciting teenagers. So I am prejudiced that they can be turned if they so desire. Remember, there are less than 3% of our population and figure out why they are being pushed on us. What happened to the majority rule? Thanks to our legislatures we elected, they think they are our boss and our conscience. Time to change all that and pronto!

  8. Of course Perry is right.. They have a choice… But there comes a time they refuse to take the right path… They think their way is right.. Both are ruining their own health..

    • There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death(Proverbs 14:12).

  9. Perry has the right to share his opinion. The Gays speak out and make Christians bake their wedding cakes. I have heard they spit in the icing. And some even pee in the frosting. If I went to anyone who did not want to bake my cake. I would strongly suggest going where they wanted my business.

  10. Most of the “flamboyant” gay’s are young and/or a bit immature. Those of us that are older do not bring attention to ourselves. We
    are hardworking, we raise families, we sit around the dinner table in the evening. We do not walk down the street holding hands, we don’t hug in public, and we never kiss in public.
    Now I have to ask you Michael, are you married to a woman? Think for a minute, what would your life be like if you were stuck in a relationship with a man. You knew you wanted to be with a woman, but that is not your place. Now think how we feel when you say we should resist being gay. I resisted and ended up married to a great man, we had kids, but that was not who I was. My kids were grown before I was finally true to myself. So I spent more than half of my life trying to enjoy being with a man, and always feeling a bit put off. He knew, and it hurt him. Now who won? The kids, may be, may be not. Should kids be raised in a house where both parents are present and miserable?
    So, should we be single, and stay inside, and quit living because it may offend someone? Try putting yourself in our shoes before you speak about something you know nothing about.

    • All have sinned and come short of the glory of God(Romans 3:23) and the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ(Romans 6;23).
      All have a proclivity to some form of sin and Jesus Christ is the answer to everyone of them. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed(John 8:36).
      You say you were not yourself? That’s correct. Only in Christ will you be complete(Colossians 2:10).
      To begin an eternal personal relationship with the living God, Jesus Christ, simply call upon His name(Acts 2:21, 16:31; Romans 10:9,10,13), ask, and receive Him into your heart(John 1:12) by FAITH ALONE(Romans 5:1). This is NOT religion, but the most awesome reality and the Lord Jesus promises to NEVER leave nor forsake you(Hebrews 13;5).

        • Your statements get dumber all the time. Sin is missing the mark, rebellion towards God and salvation is a GIFT(Ephesians 2:8,9 Titus 3:5) and can’t be bought. Absolutely stupid statement.LOL

          • The Bible is given the special privilege of confirming its own truth. It’s true because it says it’s true in the bible. BTW, if it can’t be bought then what are indulgences for???

          • You have the free will to believe God’s word or not. I’m not going to argue over it because its not to be argued over, it’s to be believed.
            Indulgences? They have to do with the Catholic church which IS NOT Christian. It’s merely just another religion with a FALSE way to God.

          • Do you have an ounce of humility with that armor of Christianity you’re so proud of?

            I guess when God gave you the Wisdom and Knowledge to pass judgment on us mere mortals, He forgot to give you a crown and a scepter. It’s amazing because of your word, I’m no longer a Christian. Geez….

            I’m starting to understand why the Crusades took place.
            Thought true Christians knew better…

          • Be like the Christians at Beria(Acts 17:11) and see if what you’re being taught lines up with scripture. Catholic teachings DON’T line up and is even blasphemous like calling Mary sinless when she called Jesus her Savior(Luke 1:47). Or praying to Mary which would make her God to hear all the prayers going up all over the world. I could go on and on.
            Judgment? Absolutely we’re to judge everything out there except the heart. We’re to judge a persons fruit to see if they’re false prophets(Matt. 7:15-20). PROVE all things; hold fast that which is good(1Thess. 5;21). Have no fellowship with the works of darkness, rather EXPOSE them(Ephesians 5:11). Believe not every spirit, but TRY THE SPIRITS(1John 4;1).
            The Bible is CLEAR on passing judgment on a persons FRUIT and DOCTRINE. Satan couldn’t destroy the church from without so he came riding in on the back of truth(2Cor. 11:13-15). There’s some truth in EVERY lie.
            people spend more time in buying a house or car than seeing if they’re being taught the truth of God’s word.

          • I’m not willing to debate my faith with you as I have seen the limits of your belief.

            One word… if you truly believe you are a Christian, don’t deny the Christianity of the RCC. You HAVE NO IDEA! You may think you are doing God’s Will, but you are actually disparaging God’s Word.
            And you appear evil. Nothing you say sounds Christian.

            You have a problem with the RCC? Pray about it. But remember… Before the Reformation we were all Catholic; it’s the original Christian faith. I’m sad you don’t have a better understanding of Catholicism – you should make time to understand it.

            Live your own life as any faith you choose, just don’t pretend the RCC isn’t Christian.

          • I see you CAN’T defend what you believe because it DOES NOT match up with God’s word. The RCC is NOT Christian. It’s merely man made satanically inspired religion. Salvation is only in Jesus Christ(John 14:6; 1Timothy 2:5; Acts 4:12) NOT in any church.
            I appear evil? Have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth(Galatians 4:16)? I’ve studied Catholicsm and cults for years. Catholics I know are just like the world and those that received Christ by FAITH ALONE came out of that religion, got grounded into a Bible preaching, Bible teaching church. They’re lives are transformed and they’re growing in Christ. One became a pastor of a nondenominational church.
            Your faith? There’s only ONE faith(Ephesians 4:5), and faith comes by hearing, and hearing the word of God(Romans 10:17). Therefore, the ONE true faith is the Bible faith.
            You can compare what the RCC teaches with God’s word. If you do, you’ll see the heresy and then its your CHOICE to come out of it(2Cor. 6:14-18), or keep your pride, works and self-righteousness and die in your sins.
            I don’t consider any Catholic my enemy, just the false doctrine and those that KNOWINGLY are deceiving so many.

          • Jessica, if every Christian were to disappear that other Christians claimed wasn’t a real Christian, there wouldn’t be any Christians!

          • The first Christian Bible was commissioned, paid for, inspected and approved by the pagan emperor Constantine for church use! EVERYTHING Christians believe in was because of the Roman catholic church.

          • The Bible is alive(Hebrews 4:12) and the words are Spirit and life(John 6:63). God is the Author of His word inspiring some 40 men as ink pens over a span of 1500yrs. on five continents.
            I’ve been in the word for decades and everything you atheists post are a bunch of crock.

          • If God was the author of the bible then who changed his words? NONE of the oldest copies of the gospels we have are the same!

          • Why do you care? The only inerrant is the original. In all the translations in all the languages there’s NO major doctrinal changes.
            As far as the gospels it showed the writers didn’t get together to get their story straight. It’s like four people that see a car accident. They all give different accounts but the different accounts amount to the same story.

          • You are evil!! Why would you ask someone who hates the RCC about indulgences? He obviously has no idea. If you’re so interested, why don’t you just google it? You know why? You’re trying to cause a fight. Bet that thrills you!!!! 🙁

          • I wonder how much a 14th or 15th century indulgence would cost today. You know, just in case… 😛

    • It’s not a crime for people to be “flamboyant” but it IS a crime to discriminate against American citizens.

      • I never said it was a crime to be “flamboyant”. I said it comes from the youth, look around you don’t have to be gay to be flamboyant. It is however, mostly young people who do the out there in your face things. It crosses all races, genders, and mostly ends in the 30’s. There has been some that never grow up and are always flamboyant.

        • Marcus Bachmann is over 30!!! gay marriage is all about equality & no matter how hard these religious KOOKS fight it they are (once again) on the wrong side of history.

    • I appreciate your honesty. The solution, however, is not ‘therapy’ or ‘counseling’ or exerting your willpower or anything like that. The only solution for a homosexual is the New Birth, freely offered to all through Jesus Christ. The same is true for every single other human being on the planet, the good, the bad and the ugly. We are all under the dominion of sin, and the only way out of that is through God’s grace, forgiveness and subsequent power through that New Birth.

      Please visit my website and pay attention to my post “Are People Born Queer?” and feel free to leave a response.

      http://www.truthanchor.com

  11. Homosexuality, covetousness, adultery, lies, necrophilia and all the rest are acts of sin. Can people control how and when they engage in sin? Most can, due to societal influences among other things. Can people stop sinning (internally, as in their thoughts and motivations)? No, because it is an integral part of human nature. That is the legacy passed down to all of us, thanks to Adam.

    There is only one sure solution to this whole situation; the New Birth provided for us through Jesus Christ. Anything else – ultimately – is just a Band-Aid.

    http://www.truthanchor.com

    • Can you understand that not everyone believes in fairytales? You have the right to believe in them but not the right to force your superstitions upon the rest of us.

      • Once in a while you seem to stumble upon the truth, such as now.

        I DO have the right to believe any way I want – just as you. However, I have not now nor have I ever demanded you believe ANY way at all – I simply state the truth. The irritation you feel is called conviction, and it comes from the Holy Spirit; He does this because He is desperately trying to reach you before you die in your sins, which would be a tragedy. I also am trying to reach you, but your obstinate rejection of truth keeps getting in the way.

        I will, however, keep trying. 🙂

        http://www.truthanchor.com

      • You believe in the biggest fairy tale ever, evolution. The Lord Jesus Christ stands at the door of the heart and knocks(Rev. 3:20). He doesn’t force Himself on anyone, nor will He let me or anyone else force Himself on anyone.

        • The obvious difference between the two is science brings a mountain of evidence to back it’s claims while Christianity is based upon 100% faith

          • The Lord God Jesus Christ created everything visible and invisible including science(Colossians 1:16).
            “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”
            Faith is the proof it is a gift from God. You don’t have to prove the
            Bible true to believers because God’s spirit has confirmed His Word by
            this gift of faith. They don’t believe it to be true. They know it is
            true. However, to one without faith, to the unbeliever, the main
            evidence of God and His love for us is the Bible. For the unbeliever,
            the proof that the Bible is God’s word to man is the accuracy of the
            Bible even in the science it presents. While it is true that the
            Bible is not a science book but all the scientific facts it gives are
            true. These truths where placed in the Bible before scientists
            discovered them to be true. I suspect God placed them in His word to
            provide evidence that God inspired this book, not man. Consider a few of
            the true science facts revealed in the Bible before they were known by
            scientists.

            Dinosaurs are described in the Bible.
            The book of Job describes in chapter 41 and 42 describes two different
            dinosaurs. They were not called dinosaurs since the word did not exist
            in the language of that day. . I think you will agree that one and a
            half chapters about dinosaurs is a lot – since most people do not even
            realize that they are mentioned in the Bible. But, if the Bible
            describes dinosaurs as living a walking on the Earth a few thousand
            years ago, then evolution is wrong. Some of you are now ready to stop
            reading. Open you mind and continue reading.

            The Bible tells the number of stars in the heavens. Genesis 22:17 Blessing
            I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your descendants as
            the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; and
            your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies. Scientists
            admit that they do not know how many stars there are. They have seen
            estimates of 10 to the 21 power stars – which is a lot of stars. While
            the number of grains of sand on the earth’s seashores is estimated to be
            10 to the 25 powers grains of sand. Notice how close these two numbers
            are. I suspect when science gets a more accurate approximation they will
            be the same, as the Bible says.

            The Bible first said that the air has weight. Job 28:25 To establish a weight for the wind, And apportion the waters by measure. (The fact that air has weight was proven scientifically only about 300 years ago.)

            The Bible describes the circulation of the atmosphere. Ecclesiastes 1:6 The
            wind goes toward the south, And turns around to the north; The wind
            whirls about continually, And comes again on its circuit. This is exactly the way our atmosphere moves.

            The Bible also describes and explains cave men. We have cave paintings and other evidence that people inhabited caves. They are explained in Job 30:5,6 They
            were driven out from among men, They shouted at them as at a thief.
            They had to live in the clefts of the valleys, In caves of the earth and
            the rocks. (These were not ape-men, but descendants of those who scattered from Babel.)

            The Bible describes the recirculation of water. Ecclesiastes 1:7 All the rivers run into the sea, Yet the sea is not full; To the place from which the rivers come, There they return again. This is an accurate description of the water cycle taught in science classes today.

            The Bible described the shape of the earth centuries before people thought that the earth was spherical. Isaiah 40:22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
            And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the
            heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

            The Bible stated that the Sea floor has valleys and mountains
            (Psalm 18:15) 3000 years before man discovered that it did have them.
            It was believed so until the 1900s when oceanographers found the sea had
            many deep valleys or canyons. The deepest canyons were called trenches.
            The Marianas Trench in the Pacific is so deep that if Mt. Everest
            (29,000 feet high) was dropped into it, the peak would still be a mile
            below the water’s surface. There are also underwater mountains. The
            Atlantic Ocean contains an undersea range of mountains 10,000 miles
            long.

            The pathways in the seas (currents) discovered because of a verse in the Bible.
            In the 1800s, Matthew Maury, an officer in the United States Navy was
            reading in Psalm Chapter 8 written by King David under the unction of
            the Holy Spirit over 3,000 years before. He was amazed that verse 8
            spoke of the fish and all creatures that swim in the “paths of the sea.”
            What could it mean? Believing the Bible to be true, he was determined
            to find them. Maury discovered that the oceans have many paths or
            currents, which were like rivers flowing through the sea. Maury wrote
            the first book on oceanography and became known as “the pathfinder of
            the seas”- “The father of modern navigation.”

            Lightning triggers the rain.
            Since 68 BC, science thought that somehow thunder triggered the
            rainfall. Now scientists are beginning to realize that as stated in Job
            28:26, it is lightning that triggers the rain to fall. Job knew this
            3,000 years ago.

            Bible says we are all one race (descendants of Adam & Eve).
            The Genome Project (mapping human DNA gene) has conclusively proven
            that all human being are from the same race. That is, we all are
            ultimately descendants of the same couple. The Bible declares that all
            descended from Adam and Eve. Science had declared that we are several
            races (Asian, Negroid, Caucasian, Middle Eastern), but finally
            scientific knowledge has caught up to the Biblical truth.

            Stars system exist as God describes to Job in his talk with Job. In these three questions (Job 38:31, 32) God
            is in reality saying: Job, you think I am not concerned about your
            suffering. Well, let Me ask you these questions. Can you loose the bands
            of Orion? No, you cannot. But My Divine power will. Some day Orion will
            no longer exist. Job, can you bind the 250 stars of the Pleiades
            together in their symmetry of beauty and not have a single one drift
            off? Only I have this power and wisdom. Can you prevent the runaways –
            Arcturus and his sons – from colliding as they go dashing out of the
            Milky Way? No, only My Divine power and wisdom can. Job, if I am caring
            for the details of the universe, do you doubt that I not only care for
            the details of your life, but I have the ability to solve your problems?
            Trust that there is a good reason I am permitting these tragedies.
            Remember, Job, I work from the perspective of your eternal welfare. How can one ignore these
            scientific facts recorded in the book of Job concerning the Pleiades,
            Orion and Arcturus which anticipated scientific discovery by nearly
            3,000 years.

          • Your ignorance of science is astounding. The Bible is given the special privilege of confirming its own truth. the Bible is held to be true because it says it’s true in the bible.

          • God says you’re a FOOL(Psalm 14:1) so believe what you want. I guess you didn’t know there was so much science in the Bible before God let man discover it.LOLOL

          • The science in the bible is all wrong because bronze age goat headers didn’t understand science!

          • The Bible was written by people in all stations in life from shepherds to kings. Yep, they didn’t understand science which further VALIDATES the fact God is the Author and the writers wrote EXACTLY what God wanted them to through inspiration(2Peter 1:20,21).LOLOL

  12. And we don’t celebrate behaviors with weddings and force people to accept them. Well, that used to be the sane way to deal with gays. Now, judges force people to accept and celebrate behaviors because these people have a right to shove it in your face.

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